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Alan C. Miller

There is nothing going on. I have nothing to say. Neither do you.

Enjoy drinking gasoline!

Alan C. Miller

Al's Corner health & safety tip of the week: drink gasoline :-|

Keith

There's not much going on at the Vanguard either. Today's article, "Boudin Could Run Again" and just a week ago in another article it was "Could Boudin Run Again?"
What's next? "Would Boudin Run Again if He Could?"

So there's that and another Gas Con article about the successful petition signature gathering for his recall. Of course Gas Con's recall has fingers pointed at Trump, “It’s a power grab fueled by the same political operatives and mega-donors that put Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell in office.” Boudin's campaign tried to infuse Trump into his recall too, look where that got him.

But somehow no Reisig article today, maybe tomorrow?

Roberta L. Millstein

If I understand Alan's original vision, feel free to talk about Davis issues that are not on the VG, too!

Roberta L. Millstein

E.g., anyone hear anything about a few people (estimates vary) booing the City Council at the recent 4th of July fireworks? I've heard that some Councilmembers aren't happy about it. No one seems to know what prompted the booing.

Keith

If I understand Alan's original vision, feel free to talk about Davis issues that are not on the VG, too!

I think we often do. In fact we had a healthy discussion about your "lily-livered" article.

But that said Al's vision as stated is: "That's why I created Al's corner -- comment here on local media content and comments, without having to deal with the Thought Police."

Keith

"E.g., anyone hear anything about a few people (estimates vary) booing the City Council at the recent 4th of July fireworks? I've heard that some Councilmembers aren't happy about it. No one seems to know what prompted the booing."

I wasn't there so I have no idea what actually prompted the booing. But I can think of several reasons why they may have been booed. For one thing they're on the opposite side as two thirds of the voters on the recent DiSC measure. There are several possibilities.

Roberta L. Millstein

Keith, I am responding to this part: "...local issues and articles and/or comments from other local forums that you may or may not have been banned from."

Although I didn't mention it, the local forum where I heard about the booing was NextDoor (which I have not been banned from! But then again, I haven't been banned from the VG either, as far as I know.).

Like you, I wondered if the Council's unanimous support of DiSC, or the Council's apparent support of Carson's lawsuit, had to do with the booing.

Alan C. Miller

I’m guessing they were booing Carson

Roberta L. Millstein

Typical Greenwald article today. "Folks will yell democracy." Yes, "folks" are yelling. "Folks" are so extreme. "Folks" are not so calm and reasonable like Greenwald, who uses such measured and fair language in his oh so unbiased articles. 🙄

He writes, "Some citizens have pushed for a more democratic process, but in 2011, the council used the appointment process to select Dan Wolk to replace Don Saylor."

Yeah, that went well.

Roberta L. Millstein

There is also this howler:

"I would also point out that both sides expended a comparable total for a ballot argument dispute over a few words. Maybe we can get the litigants of that case to also cover the cost for democracy in this instance?"

Umm, excuse me? One side had no choice about being sued and defending themselves, and in the end, didn't have to pay any money at all. If they had, that would have been citizens out of pocket for thousands of dollars. As one of those citizens, I certainly didn't have that money to spend and I don't have it to support the City doing the right thing. If they were so concerned about money, Lucas should have resigned as soon as he knew he had the Yolo County Supervisor seat and they could have had the election in November.

Ron O

So, they're at it again on the Vanguard.

Allowing repeated lies from Richard McCann regarding my motivation, but deleting my responses. Even when I don't challenge him regarding his lies about me.

The Vanguard doesn't belong in Davis.

Ron O

Here's one example of what the Vanguard is declining to post. (This does not exceed the comment limit, and I'm not seeing any reason that it wasn't posted. Note that I didn't even need to point out that Richard McCann repeatedly lies about my motivation (and the Vanguard repeatedly allows this), in this particular response:

Ron O July 18, 2022 at 7:32 pm
Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Richard McCann: "But of course, since the analysis came out with answer that refutes your stated positions, it MUST be wrong! Instead it confirms what so many of us have been saying all along, using different analytic methods. When different researchers come to similar answers with different approaches, the conclusions are generally true."

My response: "Actually, this article doesn’t really have any clear “conclusions". Did you not notice that?"

Richard McCann: "UCD has the 95616 zip code. That makes it part of the definition of “Davis” for most official uses, like how El Macero and Willowbank are included in Davis."

My response: "Do you know what a city boundary is, and the differences in city government responsibilities when an entity is outside of that boundary? (I think we’ve identified your continuing problem.) Then again, you seem to understand that Woodland is not in Davis."

"In any case, if the campus is part of “Davis” in your view, why do you continue to believe that they don’t have responsibility to house their invited guests (students)?"

Ron O

So, here's another comment that wasn't posted on the Vanguard.

By the way, if anyone is still contributing to them (financially), I sincerely hope that you stop doing so. They're not hosting a level playing field, regarding what they allow and don't allow.

Ron O July 19, 2022 at 5:00 pm
Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Richard McCann: "I am a professional in the economics field. We wouldn’t have arguments about medical treatments with a doctor or about legal interpretations with an attorney who works in those specific areas. You don’t really have an understanding of the comprehensive nature of my professional experience."

My response: You’re an environmental consultant.

In any case, it’s not that I don’t doubt that you have education/experience regarding economic issues. For that matter, so do I, though you seem to have discounted that possibility, in advance. The difference is that I don’t try to “win arguments” based upon elitist claims about myself. It’s ultimately irrelevant (and off-putting, to boot).

It’s more accurate to state that I simply don’t care what your personal background is, and it’s unrelated to anything you put forth on here in the first place. You’re not a housing market expert, any more than any other commenter on here.

If you want to convince anyone of anything, usually the best place to start is NOT, “I’m an expert, and you’re not”.

As I recall, you claim a lot of things, including sole responsibility for working out “deals” in which you (claim to) consider the point of view of those you’re engaging with. Based upon your behavior on here, I find that more than difficult to believe.

Maybe try some humility, rather than your elitist attitude if you want to actually convince anyone of anything. And put forth arguments and data which actually support what you’re claiming in the first place.

And maybe stop attacking me, personally.

Roberta L. Millstein

So, when other people advocate for an election (rather than an appointment) to fill Lucas Frerich's seat, they are "yelling" (Greenwald article from a few days ago). But when Greenwald advocates for it, apparently it is the reasonable position to take (today's Greenwald article). Conveniently, this is now the direction in which the City Council seems to be leaning. Such a watchdog.

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