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Alan C. Miller

Today's David Vanguard Digest:

SUBJECT: “Proud Boys Allegedly Attack Protesters with Pepper Spray at UC Davis”

The planned speaker for the event was Stephen Davis, the host of a weekly podcast who has become a self-described “bold conservative political activist.”

As a far-right extremist myself banned from the Davis Vanguard, I’ll have to check him out. Thanks for the tip, Davis Vanguard!

“Whenever you have right wing events like this, it’s going to attract right wing extremists and it puts the entire community at risk.”

Methinks the self-labeled right-wing protesters were probably ‘attracted’ there to protest the left-wing protesters who were trying to shut down the speaker, not to attend the speech, which -- had it occurred without a progressive protest -- would mean I never would have heard of Stephen Davis.

“They didn’t chant my name this time, so that was good.”

They didn’t chant my name this time either.

“It just makes me angry that they leave their towns where they live and they come to ours to harass and injure.

neither . . . saw anyone seriously injured.”

Yeah those towns! Where they live!

Remarkable in all this – no law enforcement arrived to quell the situation.

Maybe there were no cops because they got defunded. Or maybe the cops didn't feel like de-fending the crowd that has been calling for them to be de-funded, or maybe they weren't sympathetic to either side and figured they'd just let them sort it out themselves and clean up the mess later.

. . . had the police shown up, they likely would have been there to arrest the protesters

Had the police shown up? You mean the police who didn't show up and were not called to show up? My recollection is that for years student protestors have been calling on the police not to show up -- or even exist on campus. Wish granted.

“They want the world to be a certain way. They want to make it in the image that they want it.

Thankfully, you, sir, do not want the world in the image that you want it.

Said U.C.D.:

“It is unfortunate that the event could not proceed as planned. As a public institution, UC Davis values and supports freedom of expression as rights guaranteed to every citizen. When the students agreed to cancel the event, UC Davis Student Affairs staff successfully evacuated the students and speaker from the building.”

“The health and the well-being of our community is our priority. In preparing for tonight’s speaker and activities, we worked with the students to create a secure environment, including a safety plan, where freedom of speech could be exercised, including for those wishing to protest the speaker. UC Davis Student Affairs staff attended the event to provide education about student expression and to encourage respectful and productive dialogue.”

Said the university, “Hateful words are protected by the First Amendment. Calls for harm to others or acts of violence are not… As a public university, we are committed to the First Amendment, and we are required to uphold it. We affirm the right of our students — in this instance, Turning Point USA at UC Davis — to invite speakers to our campus, just as we affirm the right of others to protest speakers whose views they find upsetting or offensive.”

GO U.C.D. !!! Who’s University? OUR University!

SUBJECT:"City of Sebastopol Sued by Civil Rights Groups Over Ordinance Designed to ‘Displace’ Unhoused Residents Habitating in Their Vehicles"

Go Sebastopol! Woof! Woof! Woof! Woof!

"the city has made it clear that it intends to enforce the ordinance only against people who have been the subject of complaints"

Yeah, so keep it cool and don't do stuff that gets you noticed -- that's a good thing. A good motivator.

SUBJECT:"City Sued by Former Mayor Over Sky Track at Arroyo Park"

Go Joe & Janet! Woof! Woof! Woof! Woof!

"Families in my district overwhelmingly support keeping the Sky Track playground equipment at the new central location in Arroyo Park,” said Carson

'Overwhelming support' is not relevant when there is strong impact on adjacent residents.

Alan C. Miller

Well well. This gets very interesting. I listening to a bit of Stephen Davis podcast #1 and found out he is a black man! A black conservative! What I have found the identity-woke-cancel group hates more than anyone else. I what I heard, I heard nothing offensive. He was talking about how the 'woke left' calls black conservatives 'slaves' because they claim black conservatives are allies to the 'white master'. Now THAT is offensive. He says he an oppressed black man, because he is being oppressed by the left.

Yes, let me make this clear: the Proud Boys were there to protest for the right of a black man to speak.

And no, I don't condone failed attempts to smash windows nor spraying pepper spray at other people.

Todd

My comments on different subject, but also about UC Davis: https://www.davisvanguard.org/2022/10/uc-davis-to-receive-50-million-dollar-grant-from-lynda-and-stewart-resnick-of-the-wonderful-company/#comment-469138

Todd

RE: He was talking about how the 'woke left' calls black conservatives 'slaves' because they claim black conservatives are allies to the 'white master'.

References, and ideally multiple ones?

Keith

It's hypocritical and unbelievable how the UCD protest story was being spun by the leftists involved in the protest.

They were acting like fascists trying to shut down a conservative speaker at the Turning Point USA event by trying to ram a barricade through the window of the hall among other things.

Then the Proud Boy fascists showed up and altercations ensued with the Proud Boys being accused of using pepper spray.

Hey, I don't condone their actions but how can anyone overlook what prompted the protest/riot?

It was leftists trying to shut down free speech just like they did with Milo Y a few years ago. None of this happens if the leftist protesters let the event take place, that was the event planner's rights.

Keith

"Horton acknowledged that the crowd was a bit more unruly, “beating on the windows and sort of agitating the sort of private security that had been hired.”
At one point protesters rammed the barricade into the glass.
Horton was surprised that the glass didn’t break, “This glass must be really strong because they were ramming it for like a minute and a half with the metal barricade and it didn’t break.”

A "bit" more unruly? Ramming the glass with a barricade to the point where this bystander was surprised that the glass didn't break.

"Horton around 7 pm heard someone yell, “Fascists behind us!”

It sounds like there were fascists on both sides.

“I would just say that the fact that the Proud Boys showed up and pepper sprayed people and assaulted them was an entirely predictable outcome of this event,”
Anoosh Jorjorian, who was also at the event, told the Vanguard.

If it was predictable why did the leftists have to protest in the first place?

“Whenever you have right wing events like this, it’s going to attract right wing extremists and it puts the entire community at risk.”

Whenever you have a conservative event like this it's going to attract left wing protesters and put the entire community at risk.

Jorjorian said, “It just makes me angry that they leave their towns where they live and they come to ours to harass and injure.”

So were all of the left wing protesters from Davis, there were no out of towners?

Moreover, “I wish that they would suffer consequences for the kind of mayhem that they bring with them everywhere. But that’s just does not seem to happen.”

I'm sure there are those that "wish" those on the left who shut down free speech would suffer consequences too.

"The concern now is that the presence of groups like the Proud Boys agitating at local events will continue to escalate."

The concern now it that every time a conservative speaker tries to exercise his free speech rights that left wing protesters will show up and shut them down.

“This is our world now. The Proud Boys obviously came to our school board meetings and they came to the Woodland drag show. They have been showing up at drag story times at libraries. "

Ha, just like left wingers show up to right wing events.

“This is our life now. “They want the world to be a certain way. They want to make it in the image that they want it. And this is what they’re willing to do to try to make it so,”

Pot, meet kettle.

"We affirm the right of our students — in this instance, Turning Point USA at UC Davis — to invite speakers to our campus, just as we affirm the right of others to protest speakers whose views they find upsetting or offensive.”

Not when left wing protesters are slamming the windows with metal barricades trying to shut down free speech. This isn't the first time, Milo Y comes to mind.

Alan C. Miller

Thanks, KO.

Todd: The reference is S. Davis' first podcast - that's where he says it. It's called "Smash with MAGA Hulk" which is a really stupid name for a podcast IMO. It took me a while to find as my podcast feed doesn't have it, and there weren't that many episodes. It wasn't offensive, nothing new I haven't heard other black conservatives say, except maybe his colorful delivery. Didn't catch my interest enough that I'd listen to another episode.

Keith

"Letter: ASUCD Responds to Proud Boys Incident"
https://www.davisvanguard.org/2022/10/letter-asucd-responds-to-proud-boys-incident/

"While we firmly believe in the freedom of speech and its importance to a democratic society, the actions of the radical right-wing counter-protesters were certainly not an exercise of this right."

Was slamming the glass at the hall where the event was to take place with a steel barricade to the point of near breakage an exercise of free speech rights? You can't have it both ways. The Proud Boys were wrong and so were the left wing activist protesters. There are also reports that ANTIFA was present.

Keith

Here's a video of a young conservative girl who says she was maced and her property damaged by ANTIFA while trying to attend the event. The narrative that the leftists are trying to put forward is that the Proud Boys created the problem, but it's becoming clearer that the leftist extremists also initiated much of the hate and conflict that night at the event.

https://twitter.com/berryjennii/status/1585162977765793792?s=20&t=dD67GHLzGOMr2rzpCAbdSA

Keith

Dillan Horton states in a Vanguard article:

"As I continue to reflect on the Proud Boy attack that occurred at UC Davis Tuesday evening, I keep coming back to that exchange between Dumbledore and McGonagall. When there were nearly 100 peaceful counter protesters gathered outside of the UC Davis Conference how did the arrival of less than a dozen Proud Boys cause so much mayhem?"

https://www.davisvanguard.org/2022/10/guest-commentary-professor-mcgonagalls-lessons-on-the-proud-boy-attack-at-uc-davis/


But Horton said a couple of days earlier in a different Vanguard article:

"Horton acknowledged that the crowd was a bit more unruly, “beating on the windows and sort of agitating the sort of private security that had been hired.”At one point protesters rammed the barricade into the glass.
Horton was surprised that the glass didn’t break, “This glass must be really strong because they were ramming it for like a minute and a half with the metal barricade and it didn’t break.”

So which is it Dillan?

Keith

I ran across this tweet, now this is alarming.

"Sent in from UC Davis today. More campuses soon. Email us to get your copy. #runthemout"

"You can report TPUSA campus activity, or information about its members, to us & confidentially."

Link to flyers on campus asking students to report Turning Point conservative students with the goal to run the organization out, I had to enlarge the flyer to see it all.

I clicked on the group’s name that sent out the tweet and this came up:

pridewasariot.sac
@pridewasariot_
A Queer-identity based Affinity group focused on art, outreach and education.

Militant Queer | Lavender Angels | Antifa
lavenderangels@|riseup.|net

https://twitter.com/pridewasariot_/status/1586064230582652928?s=20&t=pzOTalhuprfaVZqeKcF4Qw

Ron O

Honestly, I don't believe a word of what the Vanguard reports (e.g., via its "guest articles") regarding whatever happened at the campus "protest". Those type of articles are chock-full of biases, themselves.

Nor do I particularly care. If you show up there with an intent (or expectation) of violence, you're likely part of the problem.

Stay away from it, entirely. There is no danger in allowing legal, free speech.

I, for one, sort of enjoy watching Matt Walsh's YouTube presentations, at least for the humor alone. Such presentations are not intended to provide a complete picture of various issues. But clearly, he (and others) "enjoy" focusing on the resistance they face on campuses, etc. (At this point, focusing upon the resistance comprises a lot of his show.) Now that I think about it, it's not unlike the Vanguard, itself. Essentially, political entertainment. (And ultimately, so are the protests and counter-protests.)

Colin Walsh

I am going to post this unironically on a local news blog. It certainly applies to the role the Davis Vanguard is playing in the Davis community as a vehicle for misinformation and division.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-dubious-local-news-sites-are-feeding-us-misinformation/ar-AA13Dglm

When the Davis Enterprise refuses to report on stories like Gloria Partida's felony conviction and Dan Carson's likely illegal use of City of Davis email systems it leaves it to others to write up articles about it. To be clear, in both of these situations the Davis Enterprise sat on these stories for months. The enterprise has still not addressed Carson's emails despite having had access to all of the public records demonstrating Carson's using his City Council email to campaign for measure H.

Even today, the Enterprise is sitting on a letter to the editor about Carson's emails, something clearly documented in public records.

As much as I have appreciated the Enterprise continuing to exist for local news. when it comes to actual investigative reporting on the government of the City of Davis, the Enterprise appears to be failing. This failure demands that individuals publish investigative reporting through small blog websites.

Alan C. Miller

SUBJECT: One thought on “Price Grabs a Narrow Lead in Alameda”

David Greenwald Post author
November 16, 2022 at 4:36 pm

Price now up by over 6000, she told me there is another drop tomorrow, if she expands the lead then, they might call it, I would think.

NOBODY CARES DAVID

(Impressive community discussion today in the Vanguard, consisting of David Greenwald commenting on a David Greenwald Article. Riveting.)

Keith

"(Impressive community discussion today in the Vanguard, consisting of David Greenwald commenting on a David Greenwald Article. Riveting.)"

Yup, not surprising with their new commenting rules and moderation practices that was pretty much a given conclusion.

Keith

To think of it, at the recent rate of one comment a day (and that includes the head blogger himself) why does the Vanguard even need a moderator?

Ron O

Great comments from Keith and Alan (above), regarding the Vanguard.

However, I don't think that moderation is the primary problem with it.

It's just that the same thing gets rehashed over-and-over, without any acknowledgement of facts and views which differ from their own - regardless of how many times it is pointed out.

The oversized school district is an example of this, as is the lack of demand for a large-scale commercial development - unless it's subsidized by housing (from a developer's point of view).

There's also the Vanguard's complete lack of interest regarding "progressive" issues such as the success of rent control measures (and approval of a vacancy tax), in the recent election.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/rent-stabilization-measures-win-us-052256169.html

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/san-francisco-voters-vacancy-tax-17584082.php

The reason for the Vanguard's lack of interest in such measures appears to be directly related to its development advocacy, as a "solution to everything". As such, it is closely aligned with politicians such as Scott Wiener.

Ultimately, one might ask what difference it makes to engage on the Vanguard.

Ron O

In reference to today's Vanguard article:

"Rothstein talks about what we can do about housing discrimination"

What would Mr. Rothstein think about the "Davis-connected buyer's program" at WDAAC / Bretton Woods?

And, what would he think of those who advocated for (or essentially overlooked) that program, while also claiming to be concerned about housing discrimination?

Reminds me of those who advocated for DISC, while also claiming to be concerned about local contributions to climate change.

Ron O

I'm curious as to what state senator Scott Wiener or Governor Newsom would say about this:

"Extraordinary hearing shows that Housing Element won't work—and Newsom Administration just wants to help real-estate interests make money."

"The Governor’s Office, Hillis said, “is not focused on that.” State officials only care about rezoning to allow easier private development."

“The state Legislature and the real-estate industry the pays for their elections doesn’t give a damn about affordable housing,” Preston said."

"Drafts of the Housing Element were instead grounded in a profit-driven, market-based strategy for building condos across San Francisco. Then Planning invited communities to provide comments on their market-based plan through questions and working groups that Planning directed. Planning’s approach was unfortunately antithetical to equitable outcomes because it started with a profit-driven, market-based premise, entirely framed by the ideologies of Planning staff rather than starting from community plans and letting low-income and Communities of Color lead this process and frame the discussions."

"Preston noted that over the last RHNA cycle, the city approved and saw built 150 percent of the market-rate housing that the state mandated—and only 50 percent of the affordable housing."

https://48hills.org/2022/11/affordable-housing-advocates-push-for-major-changes-in-city-plan/

Keith

This article is posted on the Vanguard this morning:

"The shooting is a logical extension of politicians’ efforts to deny transgender people our safety, community, and families."

As they always do, mainstream media is trying to pin this on conservatives including Trump and DeSantis for supposedly whipping up hate towards LGBTQ. But it's surfacing today that the shooter identifies as non-binary, so that probably blows that mainstream media agenda out of the water.

"Colorado Springs suspect identifies as nonbinary and uses they/them pronouns, defense lawyer says"

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colorado-springs-suspect-identifies-nonbinary-uses-pronounces-defense-rcna58499

Alan C. Miller

I'm surprised at you, KO. There is an answer: "It's all White Supremacy". Case closed. Gaslighting complete. Socialism.

Ron O

Keith: I agree, that there's a significant difference between some conservatives (who, for example - are concerned about the significant increase in minors pursuing irreversible medical procedures to "change" their sex), vs. hatred toward a given community.

But (not withstanding this particular example), it would be helpful if some of those same conservatives simultaneously acknowledged and rallied-against violence and hatred toward these communities. (Which had been occurring for decades.)

When I was younger, hatred and violence toward these communities was commonplace. I don't think this has totally gone-away.

In any case, people (whom I don't know) still automatically call me "sir", when they're trying to be respectful at least. Which kind of surprises me, in this day-and-age.

Alan C. Miller

SUBJECT: "Housing South of Russell Would Certainly Be Complicated, Even If It Makes Sense from a Planning Perspective"

DS: "In the long run, urging our local legislators to push to change the prevailing wage laws for special projects would be likelier to lead to housing sooner."

I swear a pig just flew by my window.

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