Al's Corner August - "Vanguard News Group" New Website Still Sucks
August 01, 2024
After years and years of anticipation and false promises of 'any day now' going back years, the 'Vanguard News Group' new website landed last week with a 'plop', like the sound of a human turd dropping on a San Francisco sidewalk. I honestly wanted it to be better, but it wasn't. In some ways it was worse. Why spend so much time to get it right, and then roll out something that is less functional and still has many of the problems of the old site?
The old site was bad and getting worse. It would load so slowly it would often time out. The site used massive RAM memory that would drain a laptop battery. The pages would skip while you were reading them, and then when you went back (if you could find where you were), the page would skip again.
Towards the end the site had some sort of virus/malware that would cause the page to spontaneously skip to unwanted ad pages, and it would replace the recent history with six steps of the same ad page address with the original address eliminated. Usually it was unwanted ads, or Bing, for some reason. A couple of times it was straight up porn. Without giving it in full the domain address it skipped to once began with "https://da.check-tl-ver-176-2.com/my-adult-video/ . . . ". This should have been stopped at once, but it happened 2-3 times.
One piece of good news, the new site hasn't spontaneously skipped to ads or porn or replaced the short-term history. It has, however, had the same loading issues and even said, "The site you are trying to reach is taking too much memory and is slowing down your browser. Would you like to leave?". It also still spontaneously skips text as it is trying to load text, and still does it again when you go back. Others have told me this was the worst part of the old site to them as well, and it's amazing DG rolled out the new site without fixing this.
Certain things about the new site are worse: It's too plain. While the old site had too much color, it would have been nice to have kept the old color scheme, just as borders and highlight, but it's just plain with no character. For some reason, the "Davis Vanguard" livery is replaced with "Vanguard News Group". Like so many things with the Vanguard, I'm sure this has some meaning to DG, but to the common person it's just confusing.
There is no ability to click on comments so you have to scroll through the whole article to reach them. Honestly, the so-called articles are so often dull and predictable and/or copied from elsewhere, so I'd often read the comments first or don't read the article at all. Having to scroll to comments, if there are any at all, which increasingly there are not, is just more than I feel like doing. In addition, there is no 'new comments' box, so you'd have to keep track of each article and keep clicking on it to see if anyone added a new comment. And again, that's more than me or most people are willing to do. And as people learn that no one knows they posted a new comment, they won't bother to post at all.
The banner at the top only hides one article at a time, and it moves at a weird rate, and it's too big and obscures to those not familiar that the most recent news is below. The articles are still repetitive crap on housing in Davis, how someone is going to sue on measure J, and on why cutting school costs actually costs money, and how more housing will save schools. And there are the usual copy articles on the evils of 'carceration' by the ACLU. And by the way, if you liked the ACLU of years ago, join F.I.R.E.. It's like the old ACLU without all the new utlra-progressive crap.
DG say: "The website highlights the various segments of the Vanguard. My focus will continue to be heavily on Davis issues and multiple commentaries each week." Let me guess: Recycled crap about housing in Davis, how someone is going to sue on measure J, on why cutting school costs actually costs money, and how more housing will save schools.
DG say: "we now have a team member who is working exclusively on grants which we see as part of the long-term financial sustainability for the Vanguard." It's good to have a team member doing this, so they can get grants that will partially cover their own salary :-| And bye bye Sparkplug Foundation: you exhibit poor judgement.
KO say: "I remember the days when there would be 50 comments by 9am. There were robust conversations. The fact now that comments often sit in the moderation queue for hours kills any chance of that ever happening again." Yup.
KO say: "Where are the several conservative commenters that used to post? Having diverse views used to generate more commenting. I thought progressives were supposed to be all about diversity." Diversity of skin color, not diversity of ideas.
KO say: "What you need are the Alan Millers, Ron Oertels, SOD’s and Frankly’s to return." Not to mention Rik Keller, that spacey woman who talked about space aliens, and that drunkard musician who doxxed RO with the global coordinates of his house.
And yes, bringing back Alan C. Miller would be the savior of the Vanguard. He is more interesting then the entire blog and its staff combined and can bring you joy and eternal life. Alan C. Miller says: "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in my will never die!" [Actually Alan C. Miller does not say that.]
But it is true that bringing back the robust community comments would bring more clicks and more eyes. Apparently that doesn't interest the Vanguard. Having developers, H.A.L.'s, useful idiots, startup foundations and civil-rights lawyers fund the thing is all that matters in the new business model, apparently, and community engagement and discussion or even clicks really don't matter. Is that sustainable? Especially with a tax lawsuit to fight?
I would have gladly served as a site-tester for the new website, but no one asked me. Apparently DG never even had a normal person look at it, as surely they would have said, "Dude . . . "
Well, DG, your savior awaits. DG deep down knows I am the savior, that my comments are the best, most humorous, and most interesting and will save all blogs whom I touch. DG knows my terms. DG knows the real problem. But until he deals with it . . .
I was tihinking about lookig at the new blog, but then I decided not to take the time. David will never let peple like me and Alan back on his blog since he wants to gaslight his half dozen or so readers without anyone posting things like "closing a school really will save money" (despite what his school board advertisers tell him) "paving over farmland is not good for the environment" (despite what his developer advertizers tell him) and "the reason that more men get arrested than women is that men commit more crimes than woman" (despite what his civil rights attorney advertisers tell him)...
Posted by: South of Davis | August 01, 2024 at 01:32 PM
"I honestly wanted it to be better, but it wasn't."
I, on the other hand, did not want it to be better.
I'm about as much of a fan of the Vanguard as David is regarding Measure J.
(Which he claims to be concerned about preserving - by gutting it.)
"But it is true that bringing back the robust community comments would bring more clicks and more eyes."
They're not coming back. The problem wasn't the website (old, OR new).
"DG say: "we now have a team member who is working exclusively on grants which we see as part of the long-term financial sustainability for the Vanguard."
What other organizations AREN'T getting those competitive grants, when the Vanguard gets them instead?
Posted by: Ron O | August 01, 2024 at 01:43 PM
Amazing fact: KO still posts there . . . . . I wonder how he evaded the rotating knives directed at 'conservative' commenters?
Monty Python - Architect Sketch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2PyeXRwhCE&t=143s
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 01, 2024 at 01:44 PM
RO say: "What other organizations AREN'T getting those competitive grants, when the Vanguard gets them instead?"
I heard "Save the Puppies" lost out last time :-( #sniff#
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 01, 2024 at 01:49 PM
RO say: "I, on the other hand, did not want it to be better."
I understand the sentiment (or as a geologist, I should say 'sediment'). However, the Vanguard is like the Anti-Guide. It's a great place to go to learn exactly how not to think or act, and sometimes has factoids that are not found elsewhere, at least for those of us not on social eviledia. I don't know if any of this is on eviledia, because I'm not on social eviledia.
So if one is to go there, having it be a pain-in-the-ass to use is not helpful, not matter which 'side' one is on. And I did enjoy the old conversations. But there is little left of those, except for the blather spewed forth by the remaining eleven 'unusual suspects'. (Note: I personally consider Barack Palin to be outside the blather. But that's me, and I do I).
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 01, 2024 at 03:28 PM
"KO say:"
Yup, I had the very first comment on the new Vanguard website. And guess what, it got deleted for some reason. Same old Vanguard... meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Yes the comment got reinstated after I emailed David Greenwald and complained. But I'm tired of dealing with that bullshit. Too many comments either get deleted or sit in the moderation queue for way too long. It's not worth the effort.
Posted by: Keith | August 01, 2024 at 03:51 PM
Alan, I actually look forward to your monthly posts here.
One of your articles is more interesting than a month of Vanguard articles.
The Davisite is lucky to have you.
Posted by: Keith | August 01, 2024 at 03:58 PM
Yes they are :-|
or . . . Yes, it is :-|
Depending on whether "The Davisite" is people (like Soylent Green) or an inanimate entity
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 01, 2024 at 04:09 PM
KO say: "But I'm tired of dealing with that bullshit. Too many comments either get deleted or sit in the moderation queue for way too long. It's not worth the effort."
I hope you'll still post there occasionally, KO. Your comments are the only thing that makes the Vanguard -- well -- not like eating sand.
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 01, 2024 at 04:14 PM
Alan, I actually look forward to your monthly posts here.
One of your articles is more interesting than a month of Vanguard articles.
The Davisite is lucky to have you.
I agree. For that matter, you're the only one holding the Davisite together.
You don't need to comment on the Vanguard to be "appreciated".
Posted by: Ron O | August 01, 2024 at 04:58 PM
"you're the only one holding the Davisite together."
Well, that's a bridge too far. I didn't create it, and I don't have the keys to the car.
"You don't need to comment on the Vanguard to be "appreciated"."
By three people.
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 01, 2024 at 07:18 PM
I didn't create it, and I don't have the keys to the car.
True, but you're the one who created a "corner" (where most of the comments are), and are one of the few who periodically submit articles (with an entertainment value, to boot).
"You don't need to comment on the Vanguard to be "appreciated"."
By three people.
Hard to tell. But some of the same people (other than the "three") have commented on the Davisite, previously. And how many "appreciate" the Vanguard, and how many "hate" it? Certainly, there's some who let their money do the talking.
There's no reason that this can't become what the Vanguard "used to be" (or better).
Posted by: Ron O | August 01, 2024 at 08:55 PM
RO say: "There's no reason that this can't become what the Vanguard "used to be" (or better)."
Ron Ortel, always the optimist :-|
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 01, 2024 at 11:57 PM
Vanguard News Group, New Webpage, additional review:
I saw a article I wanted to read in the circulating banner at the top "Top Stories". I went to "More Stories" and didn't see it there, so went back to the top to click, but it wasn't there, and the banner wasn't moving. I waited about a minute, but the banner never moved.
By that time, I forgot what the article even was.
Also, "Top Stories" isn't really the right term, but it'll do. I'd suggest "Featured Stories". And "More Stories" really isn't right. Like "Today's Headlines" would be better, as it starts with the new stuff, and should draw people to it.
The banner at the top needs to have smaller pictures like the old one, and have a border, and move like 2-3 times faster, and actually move all the time and not jam up.
I know I'm being a dick writing the article at all DG, but seriously this was a FAIL, and if you look at my article in different light, JUST TRYING TO HELP, DUDE. Constructive criticism and all that. If you are going to exist, I'd like you to be FUNCTIONALLY USEABLE. As opposed to clunky and a pain in the rear to use.
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 02, 2024 at 09:43 AM
OK, I saw this comment by Walter Schwe in the Vanguard comment section. But then it was gone. So I was gonna let it be. Imagine there's no borders, etc. You may say that I'm a dreamer . . .
And I was dreaming. The same comment apparently showed up on Facebook (Evil) as someone sent me a copy of it from there. So, if y'all WS are gonna go to all that trouble to copy the post on Evil, I will go to the trouble to rip your comment to shreds:
Posted by Walter Shwe
Keith Olsen said:
“What you need are the Alan Millers, Ron Oertels, SOD’s and Frankly’s to return.”
Ya, Keith! Go, KO! Rah Rah Shish Boom Bah Fight Fight Fight! Gooooow Team!
WS then say: They essentially decided to ban themselves.
As I've said many times, I committed commenticide. I was tired of spending time writing my opinion and having it disappear. My time is worth something, but someone #ahem# doesn't respect that and simply disappears my effort. I said to that someone #ahem# 'that's fine, but cite what rule I was violating and post that the comment was deleted and why'. I received a 'well if you don't know I can't help you' sort of reply. That, my friends, and WS, is shitty moderation.
So I wrote a comment so ridiculously and comedically offensive that they had to ban me. And they didn't get the joke. And the shitty moderation continues. So you can try to pretty up a website, and fail, by putting lipstick on a pig, or a used motor oil & fentanyl cocktail on a pig in this case (why is a cock's tail on a pig?), but if you moderation still sucks, it's still a pig.
WS say: "I couldn’t be happier."
If several people you believe to be conservatives no longer posting on the Vanguard News Group brings you to your peak level of happiness, you might want to look into new meds, or a new life.
WS say: They seem to think they are above commenting here even though they are obsessed with following the posts and comments.
The operative word being "seems", which means 'as WS sees it', which is incorrect. As for us peeps you 'seem' to believe are 'conservative', how can one be 'obsessed' with following something that almost doesn't exist anymore, i.e. comments on the Vanguard? And how is reading these comments an obsession?
As for 'being above' commenting here - what in the flying F do you mean by that. I'm not above commenting in the Vanguard. I'd gladly comment there and will any time. That is neither above or below me. DG knows my terms. And until he's ready to address the real problem . . .
. . . well, he can enjoy a motor oil, pork and fentanyl milkshake at Murder Burger. All he needs is a time machine and convincing the manager to put all that crap in their blender.
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 02, 2024 at 01:42 PM
And until he's ready to address the real problem . . .
Are you referring to what an old Vanguard commenter who played a guitar and gave away GPS coordinates of another commenter used to call "Immoderation"?
Posted by: Keith | August 03, 2024 at 02:24 PM
My View: The Council Has Failed to Address Key Problems in the Community
Yeah, we know what you think David. And yes, we could go through each one of your specific nonsensical conclusions, like we've done a thousand other times.
But just the other day, you were noting that incumbents get re-elected regardless. And in that case, you were dismissing the concerns of those who don't agree with YOU.
Posted by: Ron O | August 03, 2024 at 11:06 PM
Keith: That guy was only a symptom of the problem.
The REAL problem is that the Vanguard encourages personal attacks. That hasn't disappeared even though they've implemented "pre-screening".
Witness the subsequent comments from folks like Walter Shwe, Richard McCann, etc.
They continuously make comments regarding the person whose views they oppose, rather than disputing the actual arguments put forth. The Vanguard purposefully enables this.
Then there's David, who just plows ahead with his same arguments as if there's no legitimate challenge to his claims (e.g., closing a school somehow "costs money", according to him and the school district).
Or in other words, "the more you save, the more you spend"? (I thought it was the other-way around, according to the retail advertisements I see.)
Today, he's rattling on about how there "aren't enough shelter beds" while simultaneously noting that many homeless people refuse to use them. (Actually, his argument is that taxpayers owe these people apartments and services, regardless of where they're from.)
Here's an idea: How about sheltering them in a locale that's someplace other than the most-expensive cities in the country? Wouldn't that make more financial sense?
Posted by: Ron O | August 04, 2024 at 11:05 AM
From the Voonsplard Today!!! "Monday Morning Thoughts: July Was the Hottest Ever"
DG say: "And extreme heat comes at a great cost to state and local governments and presents a devastating health impact that is likely to continue to increase over the next three quarters of a century."
And not one mention of the ever-expanding mass coal burning in China, India, Congo, etc.
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 05, 2024 at 10:33 AM
VANGUARD WEBPAGE IS MESSED UP! The 'hottest July ever' story has a comment on he front page. But when you click on the page it doesn't have a comment. Oops.
DG listened to me and pulled the disfunctional/distracting banner at the top. But instead of fixing it as I suggested, they just pulled it.
Oh, and the content hasn't improved at ALL!
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 05, 2024 at 12:58 PM
"And not one mention of the ever-expanding mass coal burning in China, India, Congo, etc."
Alan, China is not the problem. Everyone knows that if Davis gets rid of gas burning stoves and institutes paid parking thereby inducing more bicycle transportation that climate change will soon be under control.
Posted by: Keith | August 05, 2024 at 03:21 PM
My real estate agent said gas stoves are still a big plus when buying a house in Davis. "Cool Davis" and "Davis CAN" need to get to those home buyers and convince them that natural gas is a scary scary boogeyman!!! Open House Saturday!!! Get out there progressives and save the planet!!!
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 05, 2024 at 04:51 PM
When I read the "hottest July ever" headline I'm pretty sure that it was not caused by the remaining gass stoves in Davis, but caused by a friend who bought a single "illegal in CA" metal and glass 40W light bulbs for his oven on eBay (since Amazon won't ship standard light bulbs to the plastic LED bulbs that are not recomended for use in an oven). P.S. Years ago when renting an apartment in SF a friend that likes to cook told me he replaced the electric stove with a gas stove and when I asked him how he got the landlord to OK it and run a gas line he said he didn't tell the landlord and is running the stove off a BBQ propane tank in the cabinet below the stove.
Posted by: South of Davis | August 05, 2024 at 05:19 PM
Alan: That's because you'll need those gas stoves for the "ultimate solution" when the climate becomes unbearable.
Sorry - too much Twilight Zone for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wrmIp8BCEk
Posted by: Ron O | August 05, 2024 at 07:11 PM
I was reading an article on the Vanguard this morning and something seemed different. All of a sudden it dawned on me that there were no ads on the page. No ads anywhere that I could find on the entire site. The pages downloaded quicker with no warning that the website was using too much energy. It was refreshing for a change not dodging the advertisements and banners. Is this an aberration or has the Vanguard scrapped its advertising?
Posted by: Keith | August 06, 2024 at 06:55 AM
Here's how I see it: A developer or lawyer who supports the V saw my article critical of the ads and threatened to pull financial support of the V is something wasn't done to fix the site at once. The V complied and viola, no more ads.
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 06, 2024 at 07:47 AM
So besides "biological male" there are several new terms that the Vanguard is putting the quash on.
David writes today:
"You’ll notice in our articles we have not used terms like “criminals” “inmates” “felons” “defendants” for some time. It falls under the category generic insult very clearly."
So if someone is in jail for murdering someone you can't refer to them as a criminal, felon, defendant or an inmate on the Vanguard.
It's getting difficult to comment there, you never know when a once accepted term is now taboo. Maybe you can say 'unfortunate person in jail who murdered another human being"? Can I say "murdered"? I'll have to check on that.
Posted by: Keith | August 08, 2024 at 10:21 AM
Keith: One of the things I've increasingly-noticed (in regard to some of those who claim a "progressive" outlook) is an attempt to control other people's language.
To the point where a local librarian took action that was likely illegal, but was somehow justified in his own mind. (My apologies for making an assumption regarding that person's gender.)
But it seems as though the ACLU is no longer concerned about such "trivial matters".
Posted by: Ron O | August 08, 2024 at 02:06 PM
The Vanguard needs to post a list of banned words that will get your comment deleted. Who wants to go to the trouble of authoring a comment just to get it removed because you used forbidden words like 'inmate' or 'defendant'. Generic insults I'm told. Who knew those words were so bad.
Posted by: Keith | August 08, 2024 at 06:19 PM
I'm betting that David (and pretty much everyone else left of center) keeps calling Trump a "convicted felon" (even seconds after yelling ar someone for usng the term "felon" to describe an actual felon in one of the "classes: of people they find the need to "protect". Whenever you look into "hate speech" it is always hating someone right of center is "free speech" but using the EXACT SAME term to describe anyone left of center is "hate speech". P.S. I was rectntly talking to a group of High School age Davis boys and it seems like all the years in Davis schools with far left teachers yelling at them any views slightly to the right of center has created a buch of super conservative kids (way more right of center than the pro choice on anything kinda right of center kinda libertarian views of most 80's "Regan Era" CA fraternity guys now in their late 50's and early 60's).
Posted by: South of Davis | August 08, 2024 at 06:31 PM
KO say: "It's getting difficult to comment there, you never know when a once accepted term is now taboo."
Can you say "that" or "have" ? Might want to check on that, too. Along with the words: 'might', 'want', 'to', 'check', 'on', 'too', 'along', 'with', 'the' and 'words' -- and 'and'. All these words could have been banned by the Thought Police, some time since noon.
DG has outdone himself today in his circular, boring ridiculousness. I have no problem with the Vanguard deciding not to use any terms it doesn't wish to use. But to ask commenters to hold themselves to the same standard is elementary-school all-gender-equivalent-of-marm finger-wagingly cringeworthy and self-righteous.
Why not just "let" commenters use whatever language they wish to use? Those reading can then judge for themselves if the person isn't woke enough to pass their own personal litmus test, and they can personally condemn them. But to sit there at the gate of your own comment section and police people's words in how they describe things just makes you look like a self-important a**hole.
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 08, 2024 at 09:08 PM
There seems to be quite a few threats emanating from folks like Newsom and Bonta, these days. And in this case, it's not about housing per se. Instead, it's due to the unwillingness of places like Los Angeles to clear their streets of homeless encampments.
And the "threat" is to send money for "tiny houses" to places like San Jose, instead. (Can someone explain to me exactly "how" that's a threat? In other words, "if you don't cooperate by clearing your streets, we'll send funds for homeless housing to other cities, instead?) Most cities (not necessarily Los Angeles) would say, "uhm, yeah - go ahead."
The "punishment" being that they'll encourage the homeless to go to those "host cities" instead, I guess.
"Newsom slams Los Angeles County over homelessness, threatens funding cuts"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/newsom-slams-los-angeles-county-over-homelessness-threatens-funding-cuts/ar-AA1owJmD?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=NMTS&cvid=8343e0ceda124a3492e24f9ede641147&ei=14
Posted by: Ronald O | August 09, 2024 at 02:13 PM
Alan asks:
> Why not just "let" commenters use whatever language they wish to use?
I have not seen the sacred texts (or plates) of the "woke religion" but I'm pretty sure that one of the main tenants of the "woke religion" is to correct ANYONE that uses unacceptable (non-woke) language. If a guy in a wheelchair says he is "disabled" they will say "you mean handicapable", if a black guy says he is is black they will say "you mean African American" and if a Rabbi says he supports Israel they will say "you mean you support the baby killers"...
Posted by: South of Davis | August 09, 2024 at 03:09 PM
A bizarre comment form over on that "other site": from Yesterday's (8/8) Voonsplard article, "Harris’ VP Pick Tim Walz Key Choice by Criminal Justice Reform Advocates"
Kendra Smith says:
August 9, 2024 at 8:45 am
KS say: "The right wing has nothing except their perpetual grievances."
Nothing? How about their conservative social and fiscal values?
KS say: "Period."
OK, How about their conservative social and fiscal values? Period.
KS say: "Just look at the first comment by a conservative in this thread."
Oh my God, the Vanguard allowed a conservative to post? :-|
KS say: "Complete twaddle and just a right-wing shibboleth that cannot be supported by any credible evidence."
I didn't hear an argument or discussion there. Just complete twaddle and just a left-wing shibboleth that cannot be supported by any credible evidence.
KS say: "That is literally all they have."
Still just hearing complete twaddle and just a left-wing shibboleth.
KS say: "I mean, just look at “the other site” here in town for the grievance-filled sweeping claims that can’t be supported with credible evidence."
I believe KS is referring the Davisite. Rah Rah Shish Boom Bah :-|
KS say: "They look and sound like the Pick a Little Ladies from “The Music Man.”"
Don't know the reference, don't care to look it up.
KS say: "And sorry, right wingers. “Christofascist” is fair game."
By fair game, I take that to mean you believe you have the right to special moderation exceptions from a left wing blog because you are using left-wing-created insults.
KS say: "It’s another word for “Christian nationalist.”"
A rather pejorative word for it. And the Vanguard says they don't allow those.
KS say: "That term objectively describes the groups’ aims, and doesn’t constitute “hate speech,” contrary to what people like KO try to claim."
"Hate Speech" is in the eye of the beholder. If one believes they are so self-right or group-right that they can hate on the other side, then how could they even see what they are doing to be 'hate speech'. They are just insulting evil in their humble #ahem# opinions.
KS say: "And I just love how many “nice polite bystanders” in the comments here (and elsewhere) are the first to go after liberals for biting back, but don’t remark on anything that the right wing does to attack Democrats and liberals."
I believe the 'nice polite bystanders' leave it up to people such as yourself, KS, to remark on anything that the right wing does to attack Democrats and liberals.
KS say: "But, sure. It is conservatives who are wronged."
Everybody's is wrong, when everybody's right. Or as Stephen Stills penned, "Nobody's right if everybody's wrong."
KS say: "Cry me a river."
Not humanly possible, and I don't do things just because someone on a blog who I disagree with tells me to.
By the way KS, do you have any idea what a real right-wing extremist is like? Like, what are you attacking those who comment on the Davisite for? Some may appear right-wing in the backdrop of town like Davis, but you might want to visit some 'flyover' states and talk to people there. Yes, there are bigots, like anywhere. But that's what I did and learned at a young age not to hate conservatives, and that the decent ones actually just have a different way of viewing the world, and I realized some of it had value.
So I despise bigots as much as you do, but I don't despise someone just for being 'conservative' or 'right wing', whatever you are defining that as. You act much like someone who condemns anyone who does not subscribe fully to the political agenda you subscribe to, and has no interest in discussion or nuance.
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 09, 2024 at 08:23 PM
Hey KS, check out this video:
We're All Far Right Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsbRrTULpgA
Great stuff, eh?
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 10, 2024 at 12:45 AM
In 2-days Voonsplird: "My View: Davis Is Falling Behind on Housing Progress According to One Tracker"
DG say: "This week, YIMBY Law introduced its Fair Housing Element Tracker."
In others news, African lions just introduced their first Gazelle Tracker.
DG say: "Buried within my article is the fact that Davis, while in compliance with its Housing Element, is making what they call “slow progress.”
That's the kind of progress I like !!!
DG: say: “This city is falling behind. It is not on track to meet its housing targets,” they write."
In other news, 'Sun Hot'.
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 10, 2024 at 01:29 PM
DG: say: “This city is falling behind. It is not on track to meet its housing targets,” they write."
Of course, David fails to note that very few cities ARE on track to meet their "housing targets".
But what's rather surprising is how many "hell-hole" cities (places like Barstow, Blythe, Calexico, California City, etc., aren't even "in compliance", let alone "on target". Do you think YIMBY Law cares about THAT?
And since David constantly tries to tie this back to Measure J, what if a council (in ANY city) declines to annex land, when they're not "on target"? Something tells me that's a big fat "no", despite those areas having some of the most-affordable housing development opportunities in the state.
Is the assumption that councils are just going to fold like a deck of cards? That is, if a proposal even addresses RHNA targets in the first place?
Is the state going to start forcing cities to annex land? That's certainly not a part of ANY of the new state laws.
Regarding Measure J, how about if we wait and see if the state has any "problem" with that at all, before everyone starts panicking (or in the case of David and the Vanguard - starts celebrating)?
But if the state actually DOES have a problem with Measure J, it might become more clear that they don't actually care about sprawl, loss of open space/farmland - which would be in DIRECT OPPOSITION to the supposed justification for the new state laws in the first place.
Clearly, YIMBY Law is supportive of sprawl. Look who is funding them, to see what they're actually about. (Another case of abuse of 501(c)(3) status, by the way.)
The time to appease these a-holes has long since passed.
Posted by: Ron O | August 10, 2024 at 06:27 PM
Oh, and unlike the Vanguard, I'll actually PROVIDE links to what David is citing:
https://cities.fairhousingelements.org/
I'd suggest that YIMBY Law members join Habitat for Humanity, if they want to appear to be something other than paid shills.
If it's good enough for Jimmy Carter, it's good enough for these people. Just remember - the "clawed" end of the hammer faces outward, when hammering nails. (No doubt, some of those people would need such instruction.)
Posted by: Ron O | August 10, 2024 at 06:31 PM
Something tells me that's a big fat "no", despite those areas having some of the most-affordable housing development opportunities in the state.
This sentence was not very clear. It was a reference the "concern" that YIMBY Law would have, regarding "already-affordable" cities which haven't even submitted an approved housing element.
So if the issue is actually about affordable housing, maybe the focus should be on areas that are already-affordable.
It's usually at this point that they'll say something like this: "We want to make housing affordable where there's "opportunity". Which if taken to a logical conclusion, would mean that everyone would abandon a place like Stockton, and move to San Francisco instead. And that housing prices should be the same in both locales.
So rather than improving Stockton, they want to move everyone out of it in the name of "opportunity". This is not unlike the argument used in regard to DJUSD, in regard to the negative impact of poaching students from surrounding communities.
In other words, they have no concern for those "left behind".
It doesn't make much sense, folks.
Posted by: Ron O | August 10, 2024 at 08:12 PM
I've heard the saying (below) a number of times. It also applies to the housing market, which is the reason we're seeing prices crash in some markets (like Austin):
"And that’s what you want: The solution to high prices is high prices.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/americans-refusal-to-keep-paying-higher-prices-may-be-dealing-a-final-blow-to-us-inflation-spike/ar-AA1oDEoY?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=e43fd484a980462a98d17d5c0591a2fd&ei=61
Posted by: Ron O | August 12, 2024 at 04:29 PM
Some good news, despite how this is presented:
https://www.marinij.com/2024/08/14/20b-bay-area-housing-bond-could-be-cut-from-the-ballot/
"Pulling the bond from the November ballot is a major blow to leaders of Bay Area cities and counties, who have been counting on the funds . . ."
Indeed - it's going to blow yet another giant hole in RHNA "requirements".
"But the bond has not been without critics, who mainly take issue with its high cost. The bond would levy an estimated annual property tax of $18.98 per $100,000 of assessed value, or about $265 per year for a $1.4 million home or commercial property."
Yeap - those are HOUSING (and business) costs. Who do you think pays for that?
And thanks to the Howard Jarvis Association regarding Proposition 5, which is indirectly related to the pulling of the $20 billion measure from the ballot. And thanks to the opponents of the $20 billion dollar bond, itself.
But you can see the plan, here. First, get Proposition 5 passed - which would lower the percentage of votes required for new taxes. Then, present this same $20 billion proposal in some future year, under the reduced requirements for approval.
The state (and often, local representatives) continue to wage war against their own cities and counties. And yet, these battles are still being fought on an "individual city" level, rather than the statewide level that needs to occur to topple it.
The solution to high prices is high prices, as noted earlier. How many people should California have in the first place?
Posted by: Ron O | August 14, 2024 at 02:40 PM
I don't know how/why the people who end up on councils (or as other government representatives) constantly try to fight the will of its own citizens, not to mention abandonment of responsibility for safety and the natural environment. I can only summize that the process of elections themselves "weeds out" those without connections to development and other funded interests. Anyway, here's yet another example:
"The court rightly rejected the city’s attempt to ram through the Fanita Ranch project without considering the dangers of developing in a wildfire-prone zone,' Senior Counsel at the Center for Biological Diversity, John Bose, told The Union-Tribune."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/california-town-at-war-over-plan-for-3k-homes-on-stunning-lakeside/ar-AA1oRgWl
Posted by: Ron O | August 15, 2024 at 09:27 AM
I'm curious, does anyone know why all the comments have been deleted on the article "Fight for our Future"?
I didn't see any comments that warranted being censored. There were some comments that came from a different political stance than the article but that's called free speech.
I feel an explanation is due.
Posted by: Keith | August 15, 2024 at 10:01 AM
Keith there were comments about a guy that I won't name (his name starts with an F and ends with an Ouchie) who "stands for science". Anyone that points out that when EVERY time he says "follow the science" is a synonym for "increasing pharmaceutical industry profits" (and his personal net worth with millions in pharmaceutical investments) must be a crazy right wing MAGA person and the post must be deleted. My off the grid vegan friend in Sonoma County does not understand why most of his moderate Democrat "fight the man" friends from 40 years ago that joined him at Bohemian Grove Action Network protests now sound like paid lobbyists for the pharmaceutical industry. They say they don't have time cook healthy food or go for a walk every day and since Ozempic is "safe and effective" and just $600/month it seems like the best way to lose weight…
Posted by: South of Davis | August 15, 2024 at 11:28 AM
KO say: " does anyone know why all the comments have been deleted on the article "Fight for our Future"? "
KO, no I don't know why your comments are gone -- it's not one of my articles so I don't have control of the comments there. I don't see any in the queue either. Looking at the article now there are no comments at all. I had posted a comment there that was published, and now it is gone, and I think I posted another comment later but not sure if it was published or not. I guess the extreme-left political views expressed in that article are so correct they are beyond questioning or criticism?
In other sad sad Davis blog news, the Davis Vanguard url now takes you to a gold and black Indonesian lottery site with a picture of a seemingly-underage, massive-breasted, anorexic, Asian 'woman' (girl) in a cleavage-revealing black leather top. Very embarrassing look for Mr. Greenwald. This has been going on for two days now, on and off. Did someone 'forget' to pay their lawyer?
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 15, 2024 at 12:36 PM
Looking at the article now there are no comments at all.
I believe that's increasingly the goal, on here and on the Vanguard.
Posted by: Ron O | August 15, 2024 at 02:45 PM
Well, I can assure you it certainly isn't MY goal :-)
I have never deleted a comment, and I doubt I ever will. Instead I have couple of times had to delete a few words in a comment in order that the comment comply with Al's Corner commenting policy. When done right, it makes the poster look like an arse but removes the target of said arse's post. Only two people have had this done to their comments, for hurling insults with no intrinsic content to the comment whatsovever, with initials KS and WS, and they appear to have abandoned this blog, despite always being welcome. Oh and once to RO, but to be fair he was responding in kind to the persons above.
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 15, 2024 at 03:08 PM
I'm happy that Alan had not deleted comments since RFK Jr recently said that throughout history the good guys were never the ones censoring speech.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuCldz_OSej/
It is crazy how in a few years people like me, Elon Musk, Bill Mahar and RFK, Jr. have gone from "Moderate Democrats" to "Ultra MAGA Far Right Extremists"
I can understand why the "media" likes big pharma (since they buy tons of ads that say things like "ask your doctor if this pill that costs us a penny per pill to make and costs your insurance company $300 a month is right for you".
I can't understand why most people in Davis like (and trust) big pharma and will say things like "sure all the unvaccinated people you know have never had Covid even once but I'm getting my 6th booster anyway because I trust the science"…
Posted by: South of Davis | August 15, 2024 at 04:21 PM
I tried to log into the Vanguard this morning and I got sent to a site called Bento4D. I hope I’m not getting my phone hacked by trying to access the Vanguard.
Posted by: Keith | August 16, 2024 at 05:40 AM
So, here's yet another nail in the confirm regarding the state's efforts to force housing:
" . . . the original goal of AB 2560 and go beyond the scope of it by giving more authority over housing to the Coastal Commission, which has proven to not prioritize the building of housing, . . ."
Right - because they're trying to preserve the coast - for everyone (rather than those who would prefer to privatize it).
"The California coast should not be for a select few."
I (and the California Coastal Commission) agree, which is exactly why it's fortunate that this politician's efforts failed. But I have no doubt that this Wiener-wanna-be will try again.
Ironic, how he views the effort to preserve the coast as somehow in opposition to his claimed goal.
Building more housing along the coast destroys, rather than preserves it. Honestly, I thought this would be understood by now - since the effort goes back decades at this point.
But as long as there's potential money to be made, there will always be a fox trying to get into the henhouse. (Actually, they're already in there, but they are still sometimes having trouble getting the eggs and chickens.)
https://davisvanguard.org/2024/08/guest-commentary-the-failure-of-affordable-housing-in-coastal-california/
Posted by: Ron O | August 16, 2024 at 08:48 AM
KO say: "I tried to log into the Vanguard this morning and I got sent to a site called Bento4D. I hope I’m not getting my phone hacked by trying to access the Vanguard."
HUBUNGI KAMI, KO!
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 16, 2024 at 08:56 AM
This is the third day in a row, regarding the problem with the Vanguard's "new and improved" website. One wonders if they're even aware of it - maybe no one brought it to their attention.
Maybe no one other than the "Three Musketeers" (or is it the Three Stooges?) even tries to read it.
It does still work if you have a direct link to an article.
Posted by: Ron O | August 16, 2024 at 09:05 AM
Some people don't wait for others to "build them a home". Or in this case, an RV. (Seriously, this is pretty impressive.)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/home-and-garden/man-builds-150-mobile-tiny-home-he-can-tow-with-his-bike/ar-AA1oQEVF?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=eeebb68fcd304bb3a69b8a4b91c2ac1a&ei=15&fbclid=IwY2xjawEscpBleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHRXpXHamVmxA53gUHtygfZEm2HOiRhI24XGYwid6BOHk2lvyYgmhQDqdQg_aem_n5pja7YJChtHk-5N5nsThg
Posted by: Ron O | August 16, 2024 at 11:00 AM
“One wonders if they're even aware of it - maybe no one brought it to their attention.”
David knows, he reads the Davisite.
Posted by: Keith | August 16, 2024 at 02:40 PM
Comment from Keith Echols, in the Vanguard today:
But as long as there is a stranglehold on peripheral development of any type the myopic and misinformed as well as those idiotic retail store size restrictions (seriously the Bel-Air in Woodland is a much bigger and nicer grocery store than anything in Davis. The Nugget in Vacaville is much bigger and nicer than the ones in Davis.) the this town will slowly gasp for air fiscally speaking in trying to keep up it’s current standard of living.
The Bel-Air in Woodland (two of them, actually) can't hold a candle to the Nugget on Covell in Davis. It's o.k., but the Nugget is way-more busy (and attractive) compared to Bel-Air. So is the Nugget in "South" Davis.
The Nugget in Woodland also does not generate the same per-floor-space sales as those in Davis, I'm sure.
The Nugget started in Woodland - but Davis is a better fit for this type of chain. Which, no doubt, was also a reason that they recently moved their headquarters to Davis.
The underlying reason for that, of course, has to do with the respective populations of the cities themselves. They've also expanded into Marin, which makes sense for that same reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nugget_Markets
But neither one of them generate much in sales tax, since groceries aren't taxed as such - with some exceptions (e.g., "hot prepared products).
As far as peripheral business parks, still no sign whatsoever of that in regard to the one that supposedly "escaped" from Davis. On the site that was apparently previously-zoned for a business park, but will now also include 1,600 housing units - of course.
Developers hold their noses when they're asked to build anything other than more sprawl.
Posted by: Ron O | August 18, 2024 at 01:59 PM
On the subject of taxes, I found the following video interesting. Apparently, the state of California is rolling-out a device that would "allow" (aka, "force"?) drivers of older vehicles to report the number of miles they drive, in order to tax them.
And of course, drivers of new vehicles would already have a "built-in tattle-tale".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_NmR8JJUBo
Posted by: Ron O | August 20, 2024 at 09:58 AM
Comment from Tim Keller, in today's Vanguard:
I have a family member who drove her daughter to davis from Rio linda so she could go to DHS, All of these people are migrating, some pretty extreme distances, because they cant afford to live here.
Let me "correct" that for you. You have a family member who drives her daughter to DHS because she apparently doesn't want her daughter to attend school in Rio Linda. So, she decided to take advantage of Davis schools, without paying parcel taxes into that system. And since DJUSD is desperate to avoid "right-sizing" its system, it willingly goes-along with that.
And you think that Davis not only "owes" your family member an education subsidized by Davis property owners; you think it owes her a cheap house as well.
While also ignoring the fact that DJUSD parcel taxes are part of the cost of housing in Davis.
Posted by: Ron O | August 21, 2024 at 09:07 AM
Yeah Ron, you pretty much nailed it.
Subsidized, by whatever means, ("affordable"/"Affordable") housing is an inconceivably ginormous political scam and mass brain-washing of the sheeple.
It's expensive to live in much of California because a lot of people want to live here, and a lot of them don't want to pay for that.
Now government does have a place in the system, to set up an actual market by stopping collusion, and now A.I. controlled price-fixing. But stupid people listen to politicians speak of 'price controls' and 'rent control'. Never worked, never will. Except to pooch the very people it is meant to help.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it :-|
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 21, 2024 at 09:58 AM
True, Alan.
But I was actually referring to subsidized education (the "extra" amount paid by Davis property owners - especially single-family dwellings which pay a disproportionate share of the cost), and "cheap" housing - in any form.
That's how I understood Tim Keller's comment, at least. His relative drives her kid all the way to Davis, apparently just to attend Davis' school system.
I don't have any problem with some locales being more-expensive than other locales. Probably half the people in Davis from somewhere that's more-expensive.
Truth be told, David himself correctly noted that (families in particular) who are moving to the area have been choosing somewhat cheaper, nearby locales (such as Spring Lake) - where they get "more bang for their buck".
What I don't understand is the reason that any given community would purposefully pursue more families, since they are some of the most-expensive, most-impactful populations that exist. (Generally requiring/preferring schools, libraries, recreational facilities, 3-car garages, yards, etc.)
Fortunately, it seems that some of the younger generations have (finally) figured out how expensive it is to start a family, despite all of the tax breaks and subsidies that our system already provides to them.
Posted by: Ron O | August 21, 2024 at 11:19 AM
What I don't understand is anyone who thinks that subsidizing a small number of people to live in an expensive community like Davis actually helps people of lower income overall. The dangerous neighborhoods in Sac and the Bay Area will still exist. It would be more beneficial to invest gov't money into those neighborhoods, than subsidize a select few to escape those neighborhoods.
The reason that DG is seeing the Davis not doing "enough" on 'A/a'-ffordable housing is that any subsidy that would 'make a difference' (whatever the f*ck that means) would break the budget -- the City budget that is, that is already broken. Pumping government money of that quantity only inflates the market, and overall inflation is just a tax that most affects the poor.
That's one of many reasons I will not vote for the City sales tax doubling. Anything that goes into a/A-ffordable (subsidized) housing just goes into a black hole that will never be enough and actually and overall makes the problem of high rents even worse.
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 21, 2024 at 01:58 PM
I was getting ready to respond to Alan's comment (mostly in agreement), but just saw this comment from Matt Williams:
Further, looking at Darryl Rutherford’s comment earlier this week, Tim Keller’s approach is actually a way forward economically as well. Darryl sad the following in his comment, “Our tax revenue challenges can clearly be linked to the lack of diversity in this town. The communities who continued to thrive during economic recessions are those who have a very diverse population of race, incomes and affordable homes to live in.
Just to clarify, Matt and Darryl think that communities like Tiburon and Atherton are having trouble "thriving" - despite their relative lack of "diverse populations of race, incomes and affordable housing to live in"?
Really?
Posted by: Ron O | August 21, 2024 at 03:01 PM
Alan states:
"That's one of many reasons I will not vote for the City sales tax doubling. Anything that goes into a/A-ffordable (subsidized) housing just goes into a black hole that will never be enough"
Now come on Alan, everyone knows that if all Davisites are willing to pay higher taxes the housing "crisis" will come to an end just like if Davis bans gas stoves that the climate "crisis" will be over.
Posted by: Keith | August 22, 2024 at 07:36 AM
In response to the Vanguard's "housing shortage" article today, thought I'd take a quick look to see if there's any articles challenging this claim. Note that the claims regarding a housing shortage are based upon increased "supply" (compared to prior years), and generally do not examine "demand" (compared to prior years) - including the chart cited in today's Vanguard article. This a glaring and obvious flaw in these assumptions. And yet, few seem to question this.
In any case, here's some text from the first article that popped up during a brief search. I bolded some of the relevant sections:
"The United States is experiencing a housing shortage. At least, that is the case according to common belief — and is even the basis for national policy, as the Biden administration has stated plans to address the housing supply shortfall.
But new research from the University of Kansas finds that most of the nation’s markets have ample housing in total, but nearly all lack enough units affordable to very low-income households.
The numbers showed that from 2010 to 2020, household formation did exceed the number of homes available. However, there was a large surplus of housing produced in the previous decade. In fact, from 2000 to 2020, housing production exceeded the growth of households by 3.3 million units. The surplus from 2000 to 2010 more than offset the shortages from 2010 to 2020.
The numbers also showed that nearly all metropolitan areas have sufficient units for owner occupancy. But nearly all have shortages of rental units affordable to the very low-income renter households.
When looking at the number of housing units available, it becomes clear there is no overall shortage of housing units available.
Our nation’s affordability problems result more from low incomes confronting high housing prices rather than from housing shortages,” McClure said. “This condition suggests that we cannot build our way to housing affordability."
https://www.aau.edu/research-scholarship/featured-research-topics/study-finds-us-does-not-have-housing-shortage
Posted by: Ron O | August 22, 2024 at 08:22 AM
KO,
Davis-CAN! Davis-CAN! D-CAN D-CAN D-CAN D-CAN!
Do the Davis CAN CAN !
https://tenor.com/view/can-can-gif-23923681
In case you want to join in the fun with your fellow dewy-eyed Davisites:
https://www.daviscan.org/
"Catalyzing Housing and Climate Justice Advocacy for the Future of Davis and Beyond" Bleeeeeeech!
Davis CAN solve both the housing 'crisis' for the state and the climate 'crisis' for the word, if it just really really really really really really really really wants to :-|
Actually, the City listening to the likes of Davis CAN is a big reason I will be voting "NO" on Measure Q. Because Davis *can* flush a lot of money down the toilet subsidizing housing in numerous ways, *trying* to solve the state housing 'crisis', and *trying* to solve the world climate 'crisis'.
Davis TRY
Davis FAIL
Davis FEEL GOOD ABOUT ITSELF
Davis FLUSH money down the toilet
Join me and my like-minded blokes at "Davis CAN'T" !
Davis CAN'T save the world -- so stop TRY-ing!!!
And . . . . . . . NO on Measure Q
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 22, 2024 at 09:39 AM
Regarding CAN, I can draw some conclusions solely based upon the board members. Some of these people seem to be the same ones who would support DISC - the biggest "climate emitter" proposed in recent years.
Not to mention Covell Village, Shriners, . . .
Much like the line from Soylent Green, it's "people" (combined with modern technology) who are the problem. (Or more accurately, the lack of a sustainable plan regarding their numbers.) But the number of people on this planet would not even exist without that technology.
There is no way to avoid this, without addressing population. And yet, our major environmental organizations refuse to even talk about it, for the most part.
In any case, I hope that everyone is enjoying "Cool August in Davis". (It's really unfortunate when that happens, as it kind of messes up the "crisis" message.)
Hopefully we'll go back to a drought again (after two wet winters - which also screws up the message). Then again, we're apparently never "out of" a drought these days, due to (you guessed it) - too many people relying upon the supply.
https://www.daviscan.org/what-we-do
Posted by: Ron O | August 22, 2024 at 10:23 AM
RO, you got it wrong. It's not just the heat that proves we are in a climate crisis, it's the cool, too. You see, the extremes are just getting extremier! It's scientific proof, don't you know. It's science, and Davis represents science. Just like (name removed to avoid removal) who also represents science. Who? Yeah, ¿Who? That's who.
Of course, if a wall of fire hits Davis, that will be hot.
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 22, 2024 at 10:54 AM
Alan: True - they didn't have floods, fires and tornados in the old days. It was quite peaceful and serene.
For sure, the houses that Native Americans lived in didn't get flooded. For that matter, they never had problems with parking or traffic, either.
The Wizard of Oz (and Dorothy's flying house) was intended as a "predictor" of the future, I understand. :-)
Posted by: Ron O | August 22, 2024 at 12:20 PM
Does anyone know who is funding the Davis Community Action Network (Davis CAN)?
Most YIMBY groups are funded by the guys building $1mm+ homes on small lots who also build a small number "affordable" homes (that seem to end up going to people like DG or others that helped them build lots of profitable $1mm+ homes rather than "regular" poor people) and most "Climate" groups are funded by guys making piles of "green" from "green" business.
Just like the Climate Crisis people are sure that if we just ban gas stoves or fund more "climate justice" groups the "climate crisis" will end the YIMBY Housing Crisis people tell me that all we need is a few thousand more homes like this in Davis and it will end the crisis.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1725-Heirloom-St-Davis-CA-95616/249657281_zpid/
Few people grew up dreaming of living in Davis where it is over 100 for days on end every summer and homeless people are alowed to set up camp and smoke meth (when they are not out stealing bikes and breaking into cars). Most (but not all) of us live here because of a job or because it was where we could afford to buy a home and was "cheaper than Moraga, but not as crappy as Woodland". Rather than tax everyone that lives here to build "affordable" housing we should tell the people that live here to look for a place they can afford that is cheaper than Davis bur not as crappy as Downtown Stockton)
Posted by: South of Davis | August 22, 2024 at 01:30 PM
"Another one bites the dust - hey hey, and another one gone and another one gone, another one bites the dust". (Queen, of course.)
And now, the last one.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/valley-locals-furious-as-century-old-orange-grove-is-set-to-be-razed/ar-AA1pgANm?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=f276feddfb9747aabf37fe3d2249c068&ei=9
Posted by: Ron O | August 22, 2024 at 02:18 PM
Was just looking at Beth's Facebook page, and found that she referenced an article that could (almost) be from my perspective (regarding population AND gender):
"That message doesn’t go over well on the left, right, or center. Whether folks believe in democratic socialism or the magic of the market, they rarely acknowledge the relevance of population (which we should, for starters, aim to cut at least in half) or the need to reduce the material standard of living in affluent sectors of the world (again, a good start would be cut at least in half). Instead, most everyone has their favorite technological fix (endless renewable energy, “clean coal,” carbon capture) that they believe will allow 8 billion people to consume at the current aggregate level. Even with a more just and equitable distribution of wealth, which my left comrades and I agree is crucial, we should plan for a down-powering."
Though where I might differ with this author is that we all might be able to drive Hummers, if there were fewer of us. Assuming one wants to drive a Hummer. (And assuming there were enough engineers and workers left to design and build a Hummer.)
https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/how-to-lose-friends-and-influence?r=gnrei&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true&fbclid=IwY2xjawE0zflleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHe_OGNYL7D2JRt3WPTUCHqZh2NAWmPvnb8P9CCL8tOj76Ep2ZNHvaZZVww_aem_SfKs2EK7US8bdM0pZXGuMg
Posted by: Ron O | August 22, 2024 at 07:09 PM
South of Davis: "Most (but not all) of us live here because of a job or because it was where we could afford to buy a home and was "cheaper than Moraga, but not as crappy as Woodland".
I believe that's Davis' official motto. Either that, or "we're in-between some nice places". (Though the latter might also be Sacramento's official motto.)
Though there is "North, North Davis" these days, which might be sort of a somewhat lesser-version of Davis. On the other hand, able to attend DJUSD schools without paying DJUSD parcel taxes and CFDs.
Posted by: Ron O | August 22, 2024 at 07:14 PM
South of Davis: "Most (but not all) of us live here because of a job or because it was where we could afford to buy a home and was "cheaper than Moraga, but not as crappy as Woodland".
I believe that's Davis' official motto. Either that, or "we're in-between some nice places". (Though the latter might also be Sacramento's official motto.)
Though there is "North, North Davis" these days, which might be sort of a somewhat lesser-version of Davis. On the other hand, able to attend DJUSD schools without paying DJUSD parcel taxes and CFDs.
Posted by: Ron O | August 22, 2024 at 07:14 PM
" Just like (name removed to avoid removal) who also represents science. Who? Yeah, ¿Who? That's who."
LOL, for some reason I smell "foul cheese".
That has to be one of the greatest hoaxes ever pulled on our nation and the world.
Posted by: Keith | August 23, 2024 at 05:12 AM
To me, the sin was in being 'strategic' in what was told to the American people (about masks early on, to avoid a shortage in the medical field, for example), because once started down that road, the people knew they had been lied to, and the trust was lost, so in the long run more harm was done. When dealing with a pandemic, this is unforgivable. I forgot which country did the following, but one was famous for just saying, 'this is what we know, this is what we don't know, we'll update you when we know more.'
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 23, 2024 at 10:55 PM
Alan: That is absolutely true - they pretty much admitted it (downplaying masks at first for that reason) as I recall.
"It turns out Fauci almost certainly didn't believe what he was saying. In an interview with InStyle several months later, he admitted that trying to preserve the mask supply for doctors and nurses was his first motivation. "We were told in our task force meetings that we have a serious problem with the lack of PPEs and masks for the health providers," he said."
https://theweek.com/coronavirus/1008155/noble-lies-are-a-public-health-hazard
But I think we can all agree that the REAL tragedy is that those who hoarded toilet paper are no longer able to sell them for a dollar/square, anymore.
Posted by: Ron O | August 24, 2024 at 09:20 AM
I'm hoping that more people (on BOTH the right and left) will realize that when people are paid to tell you something they are probably not telling the truth. When drug companies pay politicians (and the "experts" paid by politicians) to say something they will say it (they will work to stop anyone from saying you will be fine if you do not get Covid boosters and flu shots every year) just like when defense companies pay politiciuans (and the "experts" paid by politicians) to say something they will say it (and work to stop anyone from saying things like Sadam does not have "weapons of mass distruction"). If anyone wants to see this in action drive to South Davis and go into the Honda dealer and ask them if Honda it better than Toyota, then go across the street and ask the Toyota guys if Toyota is better than Honda.
P.S. Any idea what the deal is with all the colored cans of paint that have been splattered on the road over the last month or so? Driving from the South Davis Nuggett to Recology today there are probaly 20 splatters of paint over the overpass and down 2nd past Target. The number has been growing by a few cans a week on both sides of the road so it is not from a truck tith the tailgate down.
Posted by: South of Davis | August 24, 2024 at 12:29 PM
Just got back from University Mall / Trader Joe's, and was pleased to see the metal frame of the new mall.
Davis is fortunate to have a developer that's interested in this type of infill. I'll be a customer, for sure (e.g., Nordstrom Rack). How many developer/owners of retail malls would be willing to do this in the first place?
https://properties.brixmor.com/p/retail-real-estate/Davis-CA-95616/universitymalldavis?_ga=2.258467274.1980187910.1724538592-475599411.1724538592
And honestly, you can thank the student population for this interest. Including those who are (or will be) living in what looks sort of like a prison about a block down Russell, on UCD's land. Not sure of the name of that development, or whether it's fully occupied at this point. (Orchard Park?)
In any case, Davis is truly a great town - mostly due to UCD's adjacent presence.
Posted by: Ron O | August 24, 2024 at 03:37 PM
Forgot to mention: I was truly impressed by the crews who were "chipping" entire half-stumps of what I believe were pine trees, in what used to be a parking lot that was parallel to Sycamore.
All I can say (regarding that stump-chipping equipment) is that I "want one".
Posted by: Ron O | August 24, 2024 at 03:42 PM
Alan, there were many lies told to us and if you tried to resist you were called xenophobic and a science denier. Conservatives saw through the lies but for some reason the Democrats bought it hook line and sinker.
Posted by: Keith | August 26, 2024 at 05:18 AM
So today, David is putting forth "evidence" of a housing shortage, by citing (among other statistics) that rents have risen by 10% in San Francisco over the past nine years.
The question I'd ask is, how does that compare with the general rate of inflation for all products and services, during that time period?
Seems to me that it's well-below the general inflation rate. And if it's not even keeping up with inflation, wouldn't that be an indicator of an "over-supply" of housing in San Francisco - using David's own logic?
Regardless, there is an actual "over-supply" (a glut) of housing underway in places like Florida these days. It has tripled in some areas over the past year.
David frequently conflates "housing supply" with "new housing". "Housing supply", of course - refers to all housing that's on the market - including "pre-owned" housing. When "inventory" increases, it's usually "pre-owned" housing which creates the bulk of the increase.
https://www.newsweek.com/florida-housing-market-inventory-triples-1914520
And again, one has to question the claims of a "housing shortage" in the first place.
"In fact, from 2000 to 2020, housing production exceeded the growth of households by 3.3 million units. The surplus from 2000 to 2010 more than offset the shortages from 2010 to 2020."
https://www.aau.edu/research-scholarship/featured-research-topics/study-finds-us-does-not-have-housing-shortage
Posted by: Ron O | August 27, 2024 at 08:33 AM
In addition to their website still sucking, here is a reminder that David Greenwald and the Vanguard continue to violate federal law by posting statements supporting/opposing political candidates.
This is just the latest example from today: https://davisvanguard.org/2024/08/horton-endorsed-by-california-working-families-party/
See: https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/frequently-asked-questions-about-the-ban-on-political-campaign-intervention-by-501c3-organizations-overview
“What is the ban on political campaign activity?
It is a requirement imposed by Congress for the privilege of being recognized as exempt from federal income tax under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.
For an organization to be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) it cannot “participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements) any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.”
Posted by: R Keller | August 28, 2024 at 02:10 PM
DJUSD superintendent Matt Best is apparently STILL trying to force Davis to change (in regard to declining enrollment), rather than advocating for DJUSD itself to change.
Compare/contract Matt's comments with those of the other superintendent speaker in the video below.
For Matt, it's all about approving more sprawl. Right out of the gate. For that matter, he also suggests that California itself needs to change, in regard to a total declining student population.
That, my friends, take some "chutzpah" for a self-interested school district representative to say.
Unlike what Matt apparently believes, schools exist to serve communities, not the other-way around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiFaBONhbxk
Posted by: Ron O | August 29, 2024 at 08:57 AM
Breaking News: The IRS agrees with the Davis Vanguard that they have not violated federal law or IRS regulations. Vindication against housing obstructionists and conservatives is golden. Let the whining and crying commence.
Posted by: Walter Shwe | August 29, 2024 at 06:00 PM
Not breaking news, WS. We’ve all known this for a week. I haven’t seen any whining and crying, as you put it, just a great big quiet nothing which is all that is deserved. And as much as anyone cares. Of course the joke is actually on you and the Vanguard, since for the last two days and for many days before that, we get an Indonesian lottery page on the Vanguard’s URL. Put that in your vindication pipe and smoke it :- |
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 30, 2024 at 06:30 AM
Alan C. Miller's devices or ISP must have gotten screwed up royally. No Indonesian site was pointed to the Vanguard's domain name.
Your attempt to take down the Davis Vanguard failed spectacularly. Ponder that for eternity.
Posted by: Walter Shwe | August 30, 2024 at 07:24 AM
Regarding 501(c)(3) organizations (like the Vanguard), this has to be one of the most-abused sections of the IRS code. Note the following passage from the IRS:
"In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.
Organizations described in section 501(c)(3) are commonly referred to as charitable organizations. Organizations described in section 501(c)(3), other than testing for public safety organizations, are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions in accordance with Code section 170.
The organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, and no part of a section 501(c)(3) organization's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual."
https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/exemption-requirements-501c3-organizations#:~:text=To%20be%20tax%2Dexempt%20under,any%20private%20shareholder%20or%20individual.
I have no idea why the IRS allows businesses such as the Vanguard (and more importantly - business-supported YIMBY organizations) to claim this status.
Posted by: Ron O | August 30, 2024 at 08:21 AM
" just a great big quiet nothing which is all that is deserved"
Yup, which is also how I now view the Vanguard. A great big quiet nothing with monotonous housing and otherwise repetitive articles.
Posted by: Keith | August 30, 2024 at 08:45 AM
"Alan C. Miller's devices or ISP must have gotten screwed up royally. No Indonesian site was pointed to the Vanguard's domain name."
Walter, I was subject to the same thing. I would try to access the Vanguard and it would take me to a "Bento4D" gambling site.
Then I was leery that the site might put a virus in my computer.
Posted by: Keith | August 30, 2024 at 09:00 AM
WS say: "Alan C. Miller's devices or ISP must have gotten screwed up royally."
Nope
WS say: "No Indonesian site was pointed to the Vanguard's domain name."
You have that backwards, but regardless I confirmed this with someone who has "worked" for the Vanguard for decades.
WS say: "Your attempt to take down the Davis Vanguard failed spectacularly."
What attempt to 'take down' the Vanguard ? I've done nothing to 'take down' the Vanguard except laugh at it. Please describe the nature of my 'attempt' and describe how that 'attempt' 'failed'.
WS say: "Ponder that for eternity."
You're full of ****. Ponder that for eternity.
And WS, may I be the first to say to you: "Bento4d > Situs Toto Togel Resmi & Bo Toto 4D Hadiah Terbesar | Daftar dan Login"
Posted by: Alan C. Miller | August 30, 2024 at 10:57 AM
"Your attempt to take down the Davis Vanguard failed spectacularly. Ponder that for eternity."
It wasn't an attempt to "take down the Vanguard". It was an attempt to get them to pay their taxes - like the Enterprise is required to do.
Posted by: Ron O | August 30, 2024 at 02:01 PM
The Vanguard continues to violate federal law in publishing endorsements of political candidates. It doesn’t matter what kind of disclaimer they attach—.this is an egregious violation of their nonprofit status.
https://davisvanguard.org/2024/08/local-dems-announce-endorsements-for-november/
Posted by: R Keller | August 30, 2024 at 02:52 PM
Ron asks: "I have no idea why the IRS allows businesses such as the Vanguard (and more importantly - business-supported YIMBY organizations) to claim this status." I'll give you a hint it is the same reason that the IRS goes after conservative groups the administration does not like (and the DOJ is cool with left of center people violently taking over a a neighborhood and police station in Seattle but if a guy in a MAGA (Make Affordable Groceries Again) hat walkes into the US capitol after getting invited in by the guards he will spend years in jail).
Alan needs to remember that "silence is violence" (so if he does not say how great the Vanguard is every day it is like a "violent attack") and laughing at anyone (or a pro developmet website) is a "super violent attack" that abously means you want to "take down" the site.
Posted by: South of Davis | August 30, 2024 at 05:04 PM
SOD, great post, you nailed it.
Posted by: Keith | August 31, 2024 at 11:11 AM
"They say that the gravel roads can’t safely handle the increasing volume of traffic, and that preserving them could choke development."
Uhm, yeah - isn't that the primary reason to preserve them as is? It's not actually about the "composition" of the road itself.
I see at least some similarities to "preserve" I-80 as a three-lane (in each direction) freeway.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-radical-plan-to-save-a-rural-oasis-don-t-pave-the-roads/ar-BB1hUREf?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=cea211cdb28740b69564e151829a7017&ei=24
Posted by: Ron O | September 01, 2024 at 12:00 AM
"They say that the gravel roads can’t safely handle the increasing volume of traffic, and that preserving them could choke development."
Uhm, yeah - isn't that the primary reason to preserve them as is? It's not actually about the "composition" of the road itself.
I see at least some similarities to "preserve" I-80 as a three-lane (in each direction) freeway.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-radical-plan-to-save-a-rural-oasis-don-t-pave-the-roads/ar-BB1hUREf?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=cea211cdb28740b69564e151829a7017&ei=24
Posted by: Ron O | September 01, 2024 at 12:00 AM
Sharla Cheney (from today's Vanguard):
"This creates very few options for families to house themselves, much less their elderly parents, so the grandparents go to age-restricted senior housing or assisted living and the families leave the community in search of less expensive options."
None of that is happening. Who, exactly, is suddenly trying to house their "elderly grandparents" (who don't live in Davis in the first place) into a separate house in Davis? How many of those grandparents already live in a more-expensive, more-desirable community than Davis in the first place? (And can easily afford just about any place in Davis - with money left-over to spare?)
Families who own houses don't experience rising housing costs, other than those foisted upon them via parcel taxes and CFDs (e.g., from DJUSD). Along with the annual increase in property taxes and insurance, but those generally aren't forcing people out of their own houses. (At least, not in Davis.)
You seem to be referring to families who don't live in Davis in the first place.
But if anyone is having trouble finding a house to purchase (or rent) in Davis, I'd refer them to Zillow. New listings appear on there on a daily basis.
At this point, I have zero empathy for those who whine about not being able to "afford" Davis. If anything, it's probably slightly less-costly than the state average.
Look - if folks want Davis to grow to accommodate non-residents, why don't they just honestly say so in the first place? Wouldn't that cut back on a lot of nonsensical arguments?
Posted by: Ron O | September 02, 2024 at 06:17 PM
Ooh - the "NIMBYs" win again! :-)
https://www.sfchronicle.com/outdoors/article/tiburon-land-park-19734557.php
"Today, after longtime efforts to develop the scenic hillside, visitors no longer have to worry about trespassing. The nonprofit Trust for Public Land, with several partners, orchestrated the $42.1 million sale last week of what’s commonly known as the Martha Property, or Easton Point, from a local family to the Marin County Open Space District."
"The land deal also contended with criticism from housing advocates, who have faulted wealthy communities for putting parks before needed affordable homes. Marin County has lagged in meeting its state-mandated housing targets."
Posted by: Ron O | September 05, 2024 at 01:27 PM
More "NIMBY News" out of Marin. Yay - Go NIMBYs!
Seriously, it's not just residents who are affected by such decisions. Visitors are, as well. Sausalito is already over-run with traffic, visitors, etc. - and has been since I was a child (and probably prior to then, as well).
Truth be told, I'm surprised that there hasn't been more opposition to the state's "housing targets". I'm not sure that the average person is fully aware of what the state is trying to foist-upon cities.
"Opposition is mounting to a condominium development along Sausalito’s historic waterfront."
"A petition with more than 1,700 signatures started by a nonprofit called Save Our Sausalito urges members of the City Council to reject the proposal."
“Boom, now we start to get Miami Beach,” Collier said. “Starting something like that would destroy Sausalito. Sausalito is this funky, bayside kind of property of different types. Having Sausalito turn into this kind of glass, high-end Miami Beach, the only people that could afford to buy that are very wealthy.”
https://www.marinij.com/2024/09/05/sausalito-housing-project-faces-growing-opposition/
Posted by: Ron O | September 06, 2024 at 09:49 AM
From today's Vanguard housing article:
After more than two years and an equal number of lawsuits, the state’s battle against the city of Elk Grove for its refusal to build affordable housing is over,” Robin Epley writes. “But the war is not, unless the rest of the state is sufficiently cowed into building the units that low-income residents desperately need to call home.”
This approach is not going to work. Ultimately, state officials are elected by the voters whom they've "declared war on" - as you've described it.
But perhaps the most-glaringly incorrect claim is that the state's housing targets are focused on "affordable" housing. In fact, it's largely market-rate housing that they're pushing - in a state whose population isn't growing in the first place.
"Now the city is falling behind in actually producing that housing – again – at least now the state is monitoring it."
The paid YIMBY shills are certainly monitoring it. The "problem" (from the YIMBY perspective) is that just about every city across the entire state is not "actually" producing that housing.
"Yes, the city of Davis was briefly in builder’s remedy status. But it turns out for a city like Davis, that might not be such a big stick after all."
True.
"One limitation with Builder’s Remedy is the 20 percent affordable housing requirement – which for a lot of infill projects is a non-starter."
Uhm, I thought that the point of the Builder's Remedy (and the state's efforts) is to provide affordable housing. If so, how is 20% a "limitation"?
"And redevelopment with a required 20 percent affordable housing would frankly be welcomed by the city – not feared as a punishment."
Uhm, wouldn't that show that Davis (unlike many other cities) actually is committed to affordable housing?
"In a place like Davis, they do have a big potential stick but it’s not Builder’s Remedy, but rather Measure J. If the state were to take away that tool from the voters, many would stand up and listen. That would be a huge gamechanger."
How about if you and your developer friends "put up, or shut up"? Go for it, and see what happens. Something about the boy who cried wolf, at this point.
And what makes you doubt that one of the reactions (in addition to a whole host of others) might be to put a slow-growth council in place?
There are similar "growth controls" across the state. Is the state going to take them all down - including their own Williamson Act? If so, the state is going to further expose itself regarding who is really behind this effort and what the goal actually is.
The goal being to return to 1950s-1960s sprawling growth patterns (which are actually still occurring across most of the region and state in the first place.) And the reason that this is "preferred" can be seen in the media just about every day - when they bemoan a stable population. Business interests (who are behind the YIMBY's claims) have no tolerance for that.
But again, the state is not going to win, for several reasons (e.g., elected by the people whom they've declared war on, a slowdown in the economy, flight to other states where the costs are lower, a drastic reduction in the number of people having kids, etc.).
The only thing "saving" the growth monkeys at this point is the 9 million or so illegal immigrants that have been allowed into the country, over the past few years. But they tend to congregate where costs are lower, or where housing is subsidized for them. Below is one such example:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/rent-scam-evict-19731082.php
Posted by: Ron O | September 08, 2024 at 09:58 AM
David Greenwald's response to Matt Williams (primarily in regard to Matt's observation that the state is offering very little assistance in regard to its Affordable housing targets):
September 8, 2024 at 12:49 pm
From Matt: “Or conversely, the local jurisdictions like Davis need a more impactful stick to hold the State accountable”
From David: "Good luck with that"
Well, good luck trying to overturn Measure J, as well. For that matter, good luck in trying to force the entire state to adhere to the state's mandates. (Which you yourself have already noted are failing. Not even close, for that matter.)
It could be that the Scott Wieners and the rest of the YIMBYs are going to have to relocate to places like Texas, where they (and Elon Musk) are already welcome with open arms.
Too bad the housing market there is tanking, so I guess you can't claim a shortage there. Or in the entire state of Florida.
Or, how about the ENTIRE rest of the Sacramento region, where the YIMBY interests are already welcome (and have been for decades, as evidenced by the patterns of ongoing development).
Why is it that they can't be $atisfied with that?
The "Austin Vanguard" has a nice ring to it. Hey, it's also a college town, so it would fit right in. But since it's in Texas, the Vanguard's "free the criminals" campaign might not be as good of a fit, so there is that.
But in regard to the state's war against its own cities, this is not a war that the state will win in the long run.
It sometimes takes awhile to "rile up" the citizenry, but when it finally does occur - you get something like Proposition 13.
Ultimately, the people themselves have the power - it's just a question of when they finally use that power.
Posted by: Ron O | September 08, 2024 at 03:10 PM